Maelstrom - Rebel/Usurp Numbers

[Lord Moontree.]

Greetings! I think in older editions, the emissary strength needed for rebel/usurp were as follows:

Influence Needed (Emissaries have a +10/-10% variable):

Neutralize or Take Neutral Population Center
                   City       Town      Village
Friendly        6.25      2.5         1.25
Tolerant        12.5       5           2.5
Suspicious     18.75    7.5         3.75
Hostile           25        10           5

Take Controlled Population Center
                   City       Town      Village
Friendly        12.5         5           2.5
Tolerant        25           10           5
Suspicious     37.5        15          7.5
Hostile          50           20          10

Modifiers: +15% enemy controls region, +15% enemy friendly in region, -15% enemy only minor in region, -15% enemy hostile in region

Some questions:

1. Are the above numbers still accurate for Maelstrom edition or rules?
2. What is the different between a Neutral PC vs. a Human PC?
3. Does #315 Stir Unrest lower these numbers by the emissary's strength?

Thanks so much!

[davekuyk]

Greetings! I think in older editions, the emissary strength needed for rebel/usurp were as follows:

Influence Needed (Emissaries have a +10/-10% variable):

Neutralize or Take Neutral Population Center
                   City       Town      Village
Friendly        6.25      2.5         1.25
Tolerant        12.5       5           2.5
Suspicious     18.75    7.5         3.75
Hostile           25        10           5

Take Controlled Population Center
                   City       Town      Village
Friendly        12.5         5           2.5
Tolerant        25           10           5
Suspicious     37.5        15          7.5
Hostile          50           20          10

Modifiers: +15% enemy controls region, +15% enemy friendly in region, -15% enemy only minor in region, -15% enemy hostile in region

Some questions:

1. Are the above numbers still accurate for Maelstrom edition or rules?
2. What is the different between a Neutral PC vs. a Human PC?
3. Does #315 Stir Unrest lower these numbers by the emissary's strength?

Thanks so much!

Those are indeed the old numbers but things have changed a bit, cities, for example, can be either major or minor. Plus there are buildings which can impact political activities one way or the other.

There is a handy online calculator now:  Alamaze Aids - Emissary

[Lord Moontree.]

That online calculator is nice! Great job to all involved with it's creation.

It's also useful for me to know the numbers behind the scenes. Are numbers similar to my post above available anywhere?

[davekuyk]

I don't believe those numbers have been shared, though they may be reverse-engineered somewhere in the forums.