Balanced Teams

[Hawk_]

I wondered if anyone had given any thought to what the most balanced set of 4 teams of 3 kingdoms might be for a anonymous team game.

We all try to gain advantage by drafting the strongest team.   Maybe we should consider what kind of split would be the most balanced.  Should the RD, TR , and GI should be left out in favor of the UN, WA, and  SO.

Any thoughts?

[DuPont]

I am in favor of all teams being left on the board. Some players will want to try different strategies. There were times in an anonymous warlords game when I wanted the UN and figured nobody else would have taken him only to find it gone. The draft is a game in and of itself and I like having lots of choices. Plus, the fog of not knowing who has what and which are active.

[Lord Alz]

I have not played this format yet but it also seems like 2 different games are being discussed.

1) Experienced players doing a free format game with a lot of uncertainties and permutations that coalesce into victory or smashing defeat.
2) An evenly mass produced format that is consistently balanced?

I think that both should be options. I know I have some ideas about unusual combinations that would work based on play style, at least I think I do before it flames out! lol.

[Hawk_]

I wondered if anyone had given any thought to what the most balanced set of 4 teams of 3 kingdoms might be for a anonymous team game.

We all try to gain advantage by drafting the strongest team.   Maybe we should consider what kind of split would be the most balanced.  Should the RD, TR , and GI should be left out in favor of the UN, WA, and  SO.

Any thoughts?

I was not suggesting any long term change is needed.  I was just looking at the map and considering what would be an interesting balanced contest.

I was also thinking it might be a fun to try a version without all the strong military kingdoms present on the map.  The AN, DW and WA are a lot stronger when they have their regions by themselves.

[Jumpingfist]

I wondered if anyone had given any thought to what the most balanced set of 4 teams of 3 kingdoms might be for a anonymous team game.

We all try to gain advantage by drafting the strongest team.   Maybe we should consider what kind of split would be the most balanced.  Should the RD, TR , and GI should be left out in favor of the UN, WA, and  SO.

Any thoughts?

I was not suggesting any long term change is needed.  I was just looking at the map and considering what would be an interesting balanced contest.

I was also thinking it might be a fun to try a version without all the strong military kingdoms present on the map.  The AN, DW and WA are a lot stronger when they have their regions by themselves.

maybe something like UN GN DE,  SO RA BL,  EL AN WI, DW DA WA   my idea is give the teams with only 2 starting region the southern regions so they get the location.    I also tried to make is so at least two teams boarder every team.   RA BL SO seem strong to me but actually have the lowest income starting regions.  anyway just an idea.   

I would be interested in playing another Team game in this format or maybe drafting without TR RD GI being available.  I do prefer Magic/warlords to be anon once the game starts.

[Hawk_]

I wondered if anyone had given any thought to what the most balanced set of 4 teams of 3 kingdoms might be for a anonymous team game.

We all try to gain advantage by drafting the strongest team.   Maybe we should consider what kind of split would be the most balanced.  Should the RD, TR , and GI should be left out in favor of the UN, WA, and  SO.

Any thoughts?

I was not suggesting any long term change is needed.  I was just looking at the map and considering what would be an interesting balanced contest.

I was also thinking it might be a fun to try a version without all the strong military kingdoms present on the map.  The AN, DW and WA are a lot stronger when they have their regions by themselves.

maybe something like UN GN DE,  SO RA BL,  EL AN WI, DW DA WA   my idea is give the teams with only 2 starting region the southern regions so they get the location.    I also tried to make is so at least two teams boarder every team.   RA BL SO seem strong to me but actually have the lowest income starting regions.  anyway just an idea.   

I would be interested in playing another Team game in this format or maybe drafting without TR RD GI being available.  I do prefer Magic/warlords to be anon once the game starts.

  I think if we grouped them geographically the above design would be the best split.  When I look at this I tend to think the EL AN WI would have an advantage because they each start alone in their regions and do not have the center exposure of the WA.

Another way to go about it is to create more of a dispersed map.  We played game 116 anon team that way.
A dispersed split would look something more like:

AN DW BL

WI GN RA

WA EL UN

SO DA DE

Here, I would tend to favor the top two teams because of their starting circumstances.   Maybe the SO and UN could get some extra gold.

[Jumpingfist]

I like the spread apart team idea would maybe add to some chaos in an anon game. I think would be good to split the region sharing kingdoms between the 4 teams. GN UN SO RA

Maybe fill it out keeping Wizards separated and natural enemies separated. RA DE EL look strong but have no domes or pure Mage without going past the magic limit.

SO AN DW
UN WI BL
GN WA DA
RA DE EL

Just ideas I would be good with any kind of team format.

[Hawk_]

I like the spread apart team idea would maybe add to some chaos in an anon game.  I think would be good to split the region sharing kingdoms between the 4 teams.  GN UN SO RA

Maybe fill it out keeping Wizards separated and natural enemies separated.   RA DE EL look strong but have no domes or pure Mage without going past the magic limit.

SO AN DW
UN WI BL
GN WA DA
RA DE EL

Just ideas I would be good with any kind of team format.

I think that looks like a very balanced plan JF.  

[Jumpingfist]

So to keep it anon would we get teams together then randomly be assigned a set of kingdoms to split between the teams players? Could give it a try a few games just finished.

[Hawk_]

So to keep it anon would we get teams together then randomly be assigned a set of kingdoms to split between the teams players?     Could give it a try a few games just finished.

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19 minutes ago (This post was last modified: 19 minutes ago by Drogo.)
Maybe if no one picks one of the teams and it has to be assigned there is a little (50K) sweetener? Just a thought to keep all happy as it would mean all 4 teams (!) want that one group the least.



Our team has been looking over the list and is having had a hard time picking a clear favorites. 

Maybe the UN WI BL has a sight advantage.

We think the set up should produce a long and interesting game.

What team would anyone say is the weakest and why?