Wall of Flame Spell

[Croaker]

The spell description notes that it will prevent attacks from all but the most determined attackers (TAC 3).  A wall of flame will only prevent combat (and no damage to either side) if neither issued a TAC 3 attack order.

However, I’ve learned that isn’t correct.  My group defended on TAC 2 (stand and defend) and the opposing force attacked on TAC 2 (standard battle plan).  I could also note that I had used power word stun and all 3 of the opposing force’s Warlords were stunned.

Question - opposing forces will still battle thru a wall of flame even on TAC 2 without any leaders at the helm?  I guess that I could see that if the attacking force’s Warlords didn’t have all the leaders stunned, but maybe this is all based upon the sequence of battle.

Thoughts?  

Thank you.

[davekuyk]

The spell description notes that it will prevent attacks from all but the most determined attackers (TAC 3).  A wall of flame will only prevent combat (and no damage to either side) if neither issued a TAC 3 attack order.

However, I’ve learned that isn’t correct.  My group defended on TAC 2 (stand and defend) and the opposing force attacked on TAC 2 (standard battle plan).  I could also note that I had used power word stun and all 3 of the opposing force’s Warlords were stunned.

Question - opposing forces will still battle thru a wall of flame even on TAC 2 without any leaders at the helm?  I guess that I could see that if the attacking force’s Warlords didn’t have all the leaders stunned, but maybe this is all based upon the sequence of battle.

Thoughts?  

Thank you.

I also ran into this on two separate occasions and was surprised by the result.

Regardless of the spell description, combat still occurs for long and short-range missile phases, then in the magic phase, the wall is checked. It is possible that a group is forced to retreat (or is destroyed) in the two missile phases before the wall effect is checked.

That is my understanding of the spell from two separate battles.

[uncledarkseid]

If i am correct in assuming your attacker was the giant, then if he issued stomp, that is a Tac8 attack on the setup, which converts to Tac3 afterwards. The battle report may need tweeked in the software.

[Croaker]

If i am correct in assuming your attacker was the giant, then if he issued stomp, that is a Tac8 attack on the setup, which converts to Tac3 afterwards.  The battle report may need tweeked in the software.

I thought about that as well but then see “if a wall of fire prevents combat, then both groups will be considered to battle if they were not issued an attack order at TAC 3 (and that’s 3, not a higher TAC from one of the newer maneuvers”.

Had the combat not happen because I issued a TAC 5 for example.  Now I don’t use special maneuvers if I could be facing a wall of flame - I always put in a TAC 3.

Thanks for the comment.