Newbie Question -- Attacking PCs

[tonysoprano]

When attacking a population center with two or more groups on the same turn, is the attack value of the multiple groups combined?  Thanks!

[davekuyk]

That's a good question. The answer is no, each attack is a separate event. It would be a interesting feature if one could do that!

You can transfer troops from one to the other to boost the value of one group.

[tonysoprano]

That's a good question. The answer is no, each attack is a separate event. It would be a interesting feature if one could do that!

You can transfer troops from one to the other to boost the value of one group.

Hmmm, then what is the strategy for a dragon kingdom that is limited to recruiting just Wyverns and Giant Bats -- and limited how many of these units they can have in a group -- to build a big enough group to take out a well fortified city?

[VballMichael]

That's a good question. The answer is no, each attack is a separate event. It would be a interesting feature if one could do that!

You can transfer troops from one to the other to boost the value of one group.

Hmmm, then what is the strategy for a dragon kingdom that is limited to recruiting just Wyverns and Giant Bats -- and limited how many of these units they can have in a group -- to build a big enough group to take out a well fortified city?

That has been a topic of discussion. It is actually easier for wizard kingdoms to take out a Legendary Castle than it is for a kingdom like the Red Dragons or Giants. Maybe the Red can put together one group that could do it, but wizard kingdoms have 4 groups sometimes that can do it. Hopefully, something that is being looked at.

[davekuyk]

This is an issue for the dragons. I'd like to see thier recruitment limits increased across the board, including Phoenixes.

Barring that you can look at:

Improving leaders
Ranking brigades up to elite
Forging improved armor and weapons
Collecting artifacts
Raising wizards

However, at the end of the day, the dragons msy simply not be able to take a legendary pop center.

[uncledarkseid]

This is an issue for the dragons. I'd like to see thier recruitment limits increased across the board, including Phoenixes.

Barring that you can look at:

Improving leaders
Ranking brigades up to elite
Forging improved armor and weapons
Collecting artifacts
Raising wizards

However, at the end of the day, the dragons msy simply not be able to take a legendary pop center.

Reds can do it. I have seen it done on turn 30+
But it takes lots of time to build up that one group. I doubt if blacks can tho.
Do not under any circumstances lose a red brigade.Earning the major eso rewards two red brigades
Selecting certain regions yields one I think (i like untamed lands as you get a phoenix for free from the get-go)
There are alot of factors that aid:
Three warlords add 25% each
Equip weapons adds 25%
Reds are naturally plus 20% versus pops cuz they fly
Auto fear of 10% plus a power five wizard fear spell reduces pop defense in total 35%
Regeneration from phoenix is awesome
Morale of 160 amax adds-60% to the group
Power five wizard valor adds 25%
Elite brigades add 35% now I think.

So a legendary castle of 200,000 defense is reduced by fear to 130,000 to begin in most cases
15 elite red brigades on turn 30+ worth 80,000 points
1 elite phoenix worth 3,000
5 elite wyverns worth 11,000
10 elite bats worth 20,000
Yields a group base rate of 114,000

Factor in the bonuses 
Warlords 87k
Equip wpns 29k
Pop bonus 22k
Morale 67k
Valor 11k

Yields group rating of 320k vs pop defense of 130k
Plus you can have one extra wiz cast an earthquake, and i forgot the small presences spells rewared at power three so another 13k in offense.  I have done it, but you have to play an aggressive game to get those leaders emerging and morale pumping.  

Note, no artifacts have been included. A few of them offset the fact that it is nearly impossible to obtain the troops listed above
Take the standard of valor with customization adds 10%
Grab another one or two from the wild or, more fun, by destroying an enemy group and add that in….

[tonysoprano]

Wow. That's a great answer. Thanks to everyone for their replies.

[uncledarkseid]

Credit due to Senior Tachnician
His formula seems to work well been using it for years.

[tonysoprano]

Credit due to Senior Tachnician
His formula seems to work well been using it for years.

Another couple  of questions if you don't mind:

1.  what does the (T) indicate after the name of a controlling kingdom in the "Regional Summary"  Some have the (T) others do not?  It's probably obvious...

2. Is there a key to decipher the icons under a unit's "Decorations"?

Thanks!

[uncledarkseid]

Credit due to Senior Tachnician
His formula seems to work well been using it for years.

Another couple  of questions if you don't mind:

1.  what does the (T) indicate after the name of a controlling kingdom in the "Regional Summary"  Some have the (T) others do not?  It's probably obvious...

2. Is there a key to decipher the icons under a unit's "Decorations"?

Thanks!

T is for “total” control.  They have every pop in the region. Only w total ctrl can you enamor to “Loyal” staus, which helps tour region against political attacks in various ways.