Thanksgiving Steel - 5518

[Acererak]

IL-RD
I thought my eyes were deceiving me (ironic that). I didn't see "a" group, but various. But what's an army here or there between good friends like us?
You are not on my target list, either, and I understand the territorial needs of recruiting. As a matter of fact...

IL-ALL
Bounty spells available. 50k gold for a successful cast, safe passage for the group, etc. Multiple casting discount available (5k off per additional spell). I might have to charge a stitch more for some remoter regions. Let's palaver!

IL King of Smoke (legal in Zanthia as of 1.1.2020).

RD-IL: Red Dragon excrement is good for the mountains- so bonus! How about 2 Bounty in Triumvia (save you a spell as you can walk) for 80k?

50+45=95k gold. Split the difference because you save me bus fare. I'll do them for 88k. Trade on the turns following each successful cast of 44k gold for 1 food. If you want additional food on those, I can add 20k food for 10k gold on both or either.
I so much appreciate the new, munificent Red Dragon King, unlike his parsimonious cousin Smaug.

IL

RD- IL: Deal. We like the funny disappearing act you put on, so am glad to be friends. Can we make it 54K gold or each bounty and 25K food- again splitting the difference. You get 1 gold for 2.5 food instead of 3. 

So, I get a successful bounty in Triumvia, next turn I trade you 54K gold for 25K food.

[Dwellomir]

RD: So everyone is clear, the war with the RA was mutual and started on the same turn. RA started scouting my region intentionally early in the game while I was on my way out of his from a starting PC. RA patrol landed on my capital Turn 4, and he brought his entire army there turn 5- I reciprocated on the same turn. Now I control every PC in Krynn save 1, have killed his King, his Regent, his Baron and have 1RD over 100K in value while he has a few villages and the city in Triumvia which he loses this turn. So, unless he has a secret army group he's waiting to spring on me at the last minute - OR he's plotting with the Elf via email which I suppose is allowed since the Elf is new not much else can be happening.  His capital falls for a 3rd time this turn so between that and his Count running things now (and may get captured this turn) his influence is below 10.

So the RA wants me to give him back 8 pc's in Krynn that have me at tight control while he'll return 2 villages in Triumvia that he'll lose next turn. Because "I can't see the big picture".  Clearly I don't know how to play the game.

RA - All
Sure, the story above is about accurate otherwise, but seems the RD "forgot" to tell everyone some small details, or "the fine print" if you will. 
T1 I stumbled on his town in Krynn, which was to be expected of course and as such no surprise. But then on T2 I noticed another RD village in Krynn, aaand (drumroll) T3 even a third RD village in Krynn. So "was on my way out of his starting region" is of course probably right to the letter, but the rest of you can probably figure out the whole story   And so the concept of "mutual war" can obviously also be questioned 
And to the RD: Good that you are finally starting working on different scenarios for the future, could be useful for you future plans    As said - good luck with your chosen path!

[Pine Needle]

IL-RD
I thought my eyes were deceiving me (ironic that). I didn't see "a" group, but various. But what's an army here or there between good friends like us?
You are not on my target list, either, and I understand the territorial needs of recruiting. As a matter of fact...

IL-ALL
Bounty spells available. 50k gold for a successful cast, safe passage for the group, etc. Multiple casting discount available (5k off per additional spell). I might have to charge a stitch more for some remoter regions. Let's palaver!

IL King of Smoke (legal in Zanthia as of 1.1.2020).

RD-IL: Red Dragon excrement is good for the mountains- so bonus! How about 2 Bounty in Triumvia (save you a spell as you can walk) for 80k?

50+45=95k gold. Split the difference because you save me bus fare. I'll do them for 88k. Trade on the turns following each successful cast of 44k gold for 1 food. If you want additional food on those, I can add 20k food for 10k gold on both or either.
I so much appreciate the new, munificent Red Dragon King, unlike his parsimonious cousin Smaug.

IL

RD- IL: Deal. We like the funny disappearing act you put on, so am glad to be friends. Can we make it 54K gold or each bounty and 25K food- again splitting the difference. You get 1 gold for 2.5 food instead of 3. 

So, I get a successful bounty in Triumvia, next turn I trade you 54K gold for 25K food.

Done. These numbers exactly- i.e. 54000 gold for 25000 food. As they used to say in MTV Cribs, this is where the magic happens. IL

[Acererak]

RD: So everyone is clear, the war with the RA was mutual and started on the same turn. RA started scouting my region intentionally early in the game while I was on my way out of his from a starting PC. RA patrol landed on my capital Turn 4, and he brought his entire army there turn 5- I reciprocated on the same turn. Now I control every PC in Krynn save 1, have killed his King, his Regent, his Baron and have 1RD over 100K in value while he has a few villages and the city in Triumvia which he loses this turn. So, unless he has a secret army group he's waiting to spring on me at the last minute - OR he's plotting with the Elf via email which I suppose is allowed since the Elf is new not much else can be happening.  His capital falls for a 3rd time this turn so between that and his Count running things now (and may get captured this turn) his influence is below 10.

So the RA wants me to give him back 8 pc's in Krynn that have me at tight control while he'll return 2 villages in Triumvia that he'll lose next turn. Because "I can't see the big picture".  Clearly I don't know how to play the game.

RA - All
Sure, the story above is about accurate otherwise, but seems the RD "forgot" to tell everyone some small details, or "the fine print" if you will. 
T1 I stumbled on his town in Krynn, which was to be expected of course and as such no surprise. But then on T2 I noticed another RD village in Krynn, aaand (drumroll) T3 even a third RD village in Krynn. So "was on my way out of his starting region" is of course probably right to the letter, but the rest of you can probably figure out the whole story   And so the concept of "mutual war" can obviously also be questioned 
And to the RD: Good that you are finally starting working on different scenarios for the future, could be useful for you future plans    As said - good luck with your chosen path!

RD- No doubt. I stumbled on Villages on way out, neutral villages, I took them. You took them back and I did nothing. You came into Triumvia looking for my pcs. Big difference. I know you’re regretting it now and have a delusional outlook but facts matter little buddy. You’re getting annihilated. 

I offered you a deal a few turns back where all I would have gained was 2 villages. You foolishly didn’t take it and soon you’ll be down to 3 popcenters, and then 1 at EC.

Good luck mighty ranger king!

(Btw- No hard feelings whatever happens, I’m in character on forum and direct and forceful but just having fun, thanks Dwellomir)

[Pine Needle]

HA - IL  Hey that bounty, so, for 3 bounties would be 120k?  Is that 3 successful bounties and can we throw a food trade on top of that as well, if you still got any extra food now?

I'm thinking something like 60k gold for the next 3 turns for 3 successful bounties plus 40k food each turn.  Get us both going on the trick of the trade.

My dear Proudfoot HA King-

Wheeler dealer you are! What about undercoating? Will you throw that in?

Let's see here... got to talk to my sales manager. The three bounties would be 50+45+40 or 135 total. 

The return food is very intruiging... I don't think we get trick of trade, though, because we both have it.

Let me get back to you by tomorrow. I appreciate the offer and good will.

IL

HA King-
I will confer again next season once I fulfill existing orders. Good growing to you.
IL

[Acererak]

IL-RD
I thought my eyes were deceiving me (ironic that). I didn't see "a" group, but various. But what's an army here or there between good friends like us?
You are not on my target list, either, and I understand the territorial needs of recruiting. As a matter of fact...

IL-ALL
Bounty spells available. 50k gold for a successful cast, safe passage for the group, etc. Multiple casting discount available (5k off per additional spell). I might have to charge a stitch more for some remoter regions. Let's palaver!

IL King of Smoke (legal in Zanthia as of 1.1.2020).

RD-IL: Red Dragon excrement is good for the mountains- so bonus! How about 2 Bounty in Triumvia (save you a spell as you can walk) for 80k?

50+45=95k gold. Split the difference because you save me bus fare. I'll do them for 88k. Trade on the turns following each successful cast of 44k gold for 1 food. If you want additional food on those, I can add 20k food for 10k gold on both or either.
I so much appreciate the new, munificent Red Dragon King, unlike his parsimonious cousin Smaug.

IL

RD- IL: Deal. We like the funny disappearing act you put on, so am glad to be friends. Can we make it 54K gold or each bounty and 25K food- again splitting the difference. You get 1 gold for 2.5 food instead of 3. 

So, I get a successful bounty in Triumvia, next turn I trade you 54K gold for 25K food.

Done. These numbers exactly- i.e. 54000 gold for 25000 food. As they used to say in MTV Cribs, this is where the magic happens. IL

RD- Posting out of turn because of the impending changes in code tomorrow. I'm no longer amenable to paying 54K gold to receive a bounty spell and 25K food. Bounty is cut in half to 10% so I'll pay half and receive half if you still wish to move forward. New terms would be 27K gold for a bounty and 12.5K food. Payment for past turn result will be made in our original terms.

[Pine Needle]

RD-IL: Red Dragon excrement is good for the mountains- so bonus! How about 2 Bounty in Triumvia (save you a spell as you can walk) for 80k?

50+45=95k gold. Split the difference because you save me bus fare. I'll do them for 88k. Trade on the turns following each successful cast of 44k gold for 1 food. If you want additional food on those, I can add 20k food for 10k gold on both or either.
I so much appreciate the new, munificent Red Dragon King, unlike his parsimonious cousin Smaug.

IL

RD- IL: Deal. We like the funny disappearing act you put on, so am glad to be friends. Can we make it 54K gold or each bounty and 25K food- again splitting the difference. You get 1 gold for 2.5 food instead of 3. 

So, I get a successful bounty in Triumvia, next turn I trade you 54K gold for 25K food.

Done. These numbers exactly- i.e. 54000 gold for 25000 food. As they used to say in MTV Cribs, this is where the magic happens. IL

RD- Posting out of turn because of the impending changes in code tomorrow. I'm no longer amenable to paying 54K gold to receive a bounty spell and 25K food. Bounty is cut in half to 10% so I'll pay half and receive half if you still wish to move forward. New terms would be 27K gold for a bounty and 12.5K food. Payment for past turn result will be made in our original terms.

RD King
Well, the gods are capricious. Thanks for the notice. Glad one worked. We'll call it a deal at that and process payment this turn.
IL- ALL
I think an exception to the no talk rule is fine given the change in ongoing games' rules. I hope you all received superior artifacts for Christmas.

[Senior Tactician]

I think this game should have run a few hours ago.  Additionally, on the "ready" tab it appears as though everyone's name has a checkmark next to it, but above it says "This is not a ready enabled game."

Strange.

[unclemike]

I checked the server and it's the Ranger's orders that's causing the problem. Something to do with his turn 13 transfer troops order missing a value in Column D. The server program relies on the order entry website to trap some errors (like this one) so if the player ignores them and saves the error on the server, it may cause a problem when the turn is run. I usually try to trap these errors anyway in the server program but cannot this time around so instead, I reset turn 13 of this game. Everyone will need to re-do the ready button except for the Ranger who will need to re-do his entire orders for the turn (I deleted the file on the server so it won't cause this problem when the turn runs). Try to be careful when filling out orders on the website. There may be server lag or other issues at the time so recheck your orders and then save a good version on the server before hitting the ready button.

[Pine Needle]

Just like on Weathertop, the Ranger screws things up again.