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Then it appears that we are on the same page.
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sounds great to me pwr 8 plus couple other yummies
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The P8 wizard has been decided—lots of people were excited about that, so that’s settled. Now, the next step: do we want to add some of the other items I listed earlier, or go with Olorin’s idea of assigning customization points (with the P8 wizard out of the mix)?
Let me know what you think, and we can move forward from there!
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These options had been suggested previously. We need to know if they are possible. Can you add artifacts? Can you add mages or only upgrade existing mages?
Military - 4 veteran military brigades, or 4 regular RD/GI brigades, with 30k extra food and 20k extra gold to start. The resources help support the troops at the beginning of the game. Alternatively swap the resources for a Marshal.
Diplomatic - 3 Princes and 2 points of influence. For Demon Princes or Ancient ones swap in a Demon Prince or Console for one of the normal Princes. Can there be more than 4 counsels or Demon Princes in a game?
Covert - A Level 10 agent, two Level 7 agents, and a Scry Mirror artifact
Kingdom - start with a temple, Fleet upgrade +2 in all seas, capital defense +50k, plow of the prophet artifact.
Artifacts - Red Elk Mount, Onyx Amulet, Valyrian Steel, Renown Standard, Amulet of Protection
Magic - additional Power 5, and Power 3
This is just a starting point to get ideas flowing.
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(10-14-2024, 02:41 PM)gkmetty Wrote: These options had been suggested previously. We need to know if they are possible. Can you add artifacts? NO Can you add mages or only upgrade existing mages?Ugrade existing
Military - 4 veteran military brigades, or 4 regular RD/GI brigades, with 30k extra food and 20k extra gold to start. The resources help support the troops at the beginning of the game. Alternatively swap the resources for a Marshal. Yes
Diplomatic - 3 Princes and 2 points of influence. For Demon Princes or Ancient ones swap in a Demon Prince or Console for one of the normal Princes. Can there be more than 4 counsels or Demon Princes in a game?I can turn an emmissary into a prince. Demons and councils I do not know if you can have more than 4, I'm not sure I can add or make, but will be experimenting in a test game in the next day or so.
Covert - A Level 10 agent, two Level 7 agents, and a Scry Mirror artifact, again cannot create artifacts or any other items from nothing. Agents can be upgraded.
Kingdom - start with a temple, Fleet upgrade +2 in all seas, capital defense +50k, plow of the prophet artifact. Again no artifacts, others should be doable
Artifacts - Red Elk Mount, Onyx Amulet, Valyrian Steel, Renown Standard, Amulet of Protection - cannot create artifacts, choose them in regular kingdom customization.
Magic - additional Power 5, and Power 3 - Can upgrade but not create from scratch
This is just a starting point to get ideas flowing.
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My thoughts and going off Olorin's work on point values, each of these is ~25 points:
Military - Three kingdom veteran brigades (18 points) or two veteran RD/GI brigades, +30k food and gold (3 points) and marshal (4)
Diplomatic - Add a Prince (7), duke (6) and count (5), two points of influence (4) and amulet of protection (3)
Covert - Agent 10 (6), two agent 7s (8), agent 4 (2), Thieves Guild (2), Red Elk Mount (2), foreknowledge covert (2), +1 influence (2), +10,000 food and gold (1)
Magic - Raise adept to power-5 (15), extra adept (3), Wizard Tower (4), Foreknowledge wizard (2), +10,000 capital defense (1)
Kingdom - One extra elite kingdom brigade (the king's guard), Temple (2), Forum (2), +50k food and gold (6), +1 influence (2), capital defense +20,000 (2), capital census +10,000 (1), capital food and gold production +10,000 (2), +2 fleet quality (2)
Jack of All - Extra kingdom veteran brigade (6) or one regular GI/RD, +25k food and gold (2), +1 influence (2), baron (4), raise adept to power-3 (10), raise agent 2 to 4 (1)
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Since the options are limited only to upgrades, I suggest every kingdom gets the following upgrades, lets go wild.
- P8 wizard
- 2X level 10 agents
- Capital defense +50,000
- Promote Duke and Count to Prince
Since more military units wont help and could hurt some kingdoms, more costs, I suggest we forgo the military units.
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(10-16-2024, 12:53 AM)gkmetty Wrote: Since the options are limited only to upgrades, I suggest every kingdom gets the following upgrades, lets go wild.
- P8 wizard
- 2X level 10 agents
- Capital defense +50,000
- Promote Duke and Count to Prince
Since more military units wont help and could hurt some kingdoms, more costs, I suggest we forgo the military units.
I like it simple and same for everyone less to think about but super fast fun start
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(10-16-2024, 03:37 AM)CosmicWizard Wrote: (10-16-2024, 12:53 AM)gkmetty Wrote: Since the options are limited only to upgrades, I suggest every kingdom gets the following upgrades, lets go wild.
- P8 wizard
- 2X level 10 agents
- Capital defense +50,000
- Promote Duke and Count to Prince
Since more military units wont help and could hurt some kingdoms, more costs, I suggest we forgo the military units.
I like it simple and same for everyone less to think about but super fast fun start
Yep, let's do this and move this forward. Thanks Brekk, I know this will be a lot of time on your part to set up. But it is on the simpler side where you do the same for every kingdom.
Now we need someone to do a random order for drafting and then we will pick our kingdoms or regions in the order 1-12 and then the second pick will be 12-1.
And yes, folks, that means we will still have our 20 points for customization.
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People of Alamaze !
Without further objection it seems the Great Debate has been settled and the path forward to Make Alamaze Great Again is clear!
As ever, your humble servant, Lord Garth, stands ready and able to perform the duties of First Runner up Alamaze Champion and conduct the time honored Ritual of Dice Rolling. And I am pleased to announced that this Ritual was successful and the Sacred Draft Order is complete! Behold.....
1. Pine Needle -- 11
2. VballMichael -- 1
3. Ozymandius -- 4
4. JohnnyUtah -- 10
5. Windstar -- 9
6. CosmicWizard -- 3
7. Canticar -- 6
8. Strongwill -- 5
9. Dwellomir -- 8
10. Zolzar -- 2
11. Ruingurth -- 12
12. Olorin -- 7
This concludes our ceremonies today. Now, go forth and draft!
Lord Garth
Two time consecutive First Runner up Alamaze Champion (2022-2024)
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