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2nd Forum Only Diplomacy
(11-10-2016, 06:29 PM)unclemike Wrote: Well, there are other combinations with spells, artifacts, and now, brigade special abilities that can cause trouble for your opponent. Ever try to combine a Mist Talisman (hides from locate character spells, divine artifact locations, and immune to less than L10 agent actions) with an Onyx Amulet on an agent? That's one invisible and undetectable secret agent having free reign throughout the realm. There are all kinds of combinations that you can do with spells, artifacts, and brigade special abilities. They're not bugs...

(NO) Plans within plans. Our NAP is over but I am otherwise occupied with my ongoing war w\NE and now being attacked by the SA. Clearly you have nothing to fear from me.
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(11-10-2016, 06:51 PM)Atuan Wrote: when you cast phantoms you can be attacked.  There is a risk your group with phantoms is wiped out due to casting it.  There isn't a loophole here.  Had you attacked all 4 groups you likely would have been able to hurt a good portion of his wizards.  Had you used 88 you would have kept all of your wizards and lost some/all of your troops while at the same time likely killing  a good portion of his wizards.  As a wizard kingdom, do you honestly care that you lost troops?

One of my weaknesses as a game player is that I can never just "play the rules". So no, it never feels right for me to sacrifice troops. I can hear their screams when I go to sleep at night Sad

I thought about bailing out completely and could have extricated 5 wizards doing so. But I didn't know about the phantoms-affecting-status-for-attack "feature" so I certainly didn't have that in my plans. I thought I was only dealing with one group that could impact the battle while I had two and (probably) a stronger military. The whole point of the attack into R9 was to have some excitement. Teleporting my wizards back home would have been lame. And I did learn something. A whole lot of something. And because it's been discussed publicly, maybe others learned without having to do it the hard way.

As a final note on the topic, it might help to add a note to the spell description that casting this spell allows the group to attack and be attacked as if it had real brigades.
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(11-10-2016, 11:00 PM)Netstrider Wrote:
(11-10-2016, 06:51 PM)Atuan Wrote: when you cast phantoms you can be attacked.  There is a risk your group with phantoms is wiped out due to casting it.  There isn't a loophole here.  Had you attacked all 4 groups you likely would have been able to hurt a good portion of his wizards.  Had you used 88 you would have kept all of your wizards and lost some/all of your troops while at the same time likely killing  a good portion of his wizards.  As a wizard kingdom, do you honestly care that you lost troops?

One of my weaknesses as a game player is that I can never just "play the rules". So no, it never feels right for me to sacrifice troops. I can hear their screams when I go to sleep at night Sad

I thought about bailing out completely and could have extricated 5 wizards doing so. But I didn't know about the phantoms-affecting-status-for-attack "feature" so I certainly didn't have that in my plans. I thought I was only dealing with one group that could impact the battle while I had two and (probably) a stronger military. The whole point of the attack into R9 was to have some excitement. Teleporting my wizards back home would have been lame. And I did learn something. A whole lot of something. And because it's been discussed publicly, maybe others learned without having to do it the hard way.

As a final note on the topic, it might help to add a note to the spell description that casting this spell allows the group to attack and be attacked as if it had real brigades.

Tis an unfortunate condition. I did believe you would reach out to JF as a source for this battle.
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(NO) Who knows what else we know about "Rellgar The Mighty"? Still trying to figure out why he attacked me, because I was winning against the NE I suppose? Or is it because he gave up villages to me earlier in the game and lost face doing so? Funny how he's been the only one with 2 regions in this game yet no one has decided he's a target. Hmmm. Druid?

Anyway, here's a smattering of info on him- clearly I can't give it all away. How will he know what I plan on taking out then? Not sure it matters since his agent corps is now basically nonexistent.

There is a Sacred Order city located in area IN of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order town located in area HH of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order town located in area IK of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order town located in area JH of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order town located in area KO of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area GL of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area IP of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area KI of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area MK of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area MN of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area PJ of Amberland.
There is a Sacred Order village located in area PL of Amberland.

4SA 16 10 YU Warlord Kevin Trueheart Darian (Power-2)
Grand Marshal Yor NA
Marshal Kyr Shade NA

DR Army Group 2SA Marshal Krossis


SA King Arthur Blackshield
SA Duke Ghost of Arthur
SA Fool Charles Demar
SA Baron Gawain
SA Governor Francis
SA High Priestess Catherine
SA High Priestess Agnes
SA High Priestess Beatrice
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(DU) - NO are you saying he has an army group at DR? You also failed to mention where his capital is. Not that we would be moving there as we are pacted, but if you plan on giving away information others might want to know where to move.

(DU) - DE The Lord of the Forest has not heard from you and we wish to know if you would like terms or if we progress forward.
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(11-11-2016, 05:28 PM)Acererak Wrote: (NO) Who knows what else we know about  "Rellgar The Mighty"? Still trying to figure out why he attacked me, because I was winning against the NE I suppose? Or is it because he gave up villages to me earlier in the game and lost face doing so? Funny how he's been the only one with 2 regions in this game yet no one has decided he's a target. Hmmm. Druid?

Anyway, here's a smattering of info on him- clearly I can't give it all away. How will he know what I plan on taking out then? Not sure it matters since his agent corps is now basically nonexistent.

                           There is a Sacred Order city located in area IN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area HH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area IK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area JH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area KO of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area GL of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area IP of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area KI of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PJ of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PL of Amberland.

4SA     16    10   YU   Warlord Kevin Trueheart         Darian (Power-2)        
                                 Grand Marshal Yor               NA                      
                                 Marshal Kyr Shade               NA    

DR     Army Group    2SA          Marshal Krossis

         
         SA  King           Arthur Blackshield    
         SA  Duke           Ghost of Arthur
         SA  Fool           Charles Demar        
         SA  Baron          Gawain                
         SA Governor Francis
        SA  High Priestess Catherine  
         SA  High Priestess Agnes                
         SA  High Priestess Beatrice

SA-NO your mistaken, I only control 1 region, I controlled Torvalds only briefly for one moon after destroying the SO. I was attacked by the TY. Let's just say the NE has been friendlier and will be a better neighbor than you.
I would say that I'm no threat to the Lord of the Forest, but you are, and everyone knows this. Nice try, it seems you picked the wrong kingdom's to allign with. I farsee the DU, PI and LI being triumphant.
Rellgar the Great
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(DU) - LI The Lord of the Forest is curious if we formed an alliance?
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(11-11-2016, 06:15 PM)RELLGAR Wrote:
(11-11-2016, 05:28 PM)Acererak Wrote: (NO) Who knows what else we know about  "Rellgar The Mighty"? Still trying to figure out why he attacked me, because I was winning against the NE I suppose? Or is it because he gave up villages to me earlier in the game and lost face doing so? Funny how he's been the only one with 2 regions in this game yet no one has decided he's a target. Hmmm. Druid?

Anyway, here's a smattering of info on him- clearly I can't give it all away. How will he know what I plan on taking out then? Not sure it matters since his agent corps is now basically nonexistent.

                           There is a Sacred Order city located in area IN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area HH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area IK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area JH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area KO of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area GL of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area IP of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area KI of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PJ of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PL of Amberland.

4SA     16    10   YU   Warlord Kevin Trueheart         Darian (Power-2)        
                                 Grand Marshal Yor               NA                      
                                 Marshal Kyr Shade               NA    

DR     Army Group    2SA          Marshal Krossis

         
         SA  King           Arthur Blackshield    
         SA  Duke           Ghost of Arthur
         SA  Fool           Charles Demar        
         SA  Baron          Gawain                
         SA Governor Francis
        SA  High Priestess Catherine  
         SA  High Priestess Agnes                
         SA  High Priestess Beatrice

SA-NO your mistaken, I only control 1 region, I controlled Torvalds only briefly for one moon after destroying the SO. I was attacked by the TY. Let's just say the NE has been friendlier and will be a better neighbor than you.
I would say that I'm no threat to the Lord of the Forest, but you are, and everyone knows this. Nice try, it seems you picked the wrong kingdom's to allign with. I farsee the DU, PI and LI being triumphant.
Rellgar the Great

(NO) How can I be a threat to the Druid when we have a game long NAP? Seems as if you are the one that is mistaken.
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(11-11-2016, 06:29 PM)Acererak Wrote:
(11-11-2016, 06:15 PM)RELLGAR Wrote:
(11-11-2016, 05:28 PM)Acererak Wrote: (NO) Who knows what else we know about  "Rellgar The Mighty"? Still trying to figure out why he attacked me, because I was winning against the NE I suppose? Or is it because he gave up villages to me earlier in the game and lost face doing so? Funny how he's been the only one with 2 regions in this game yet no one has decided he's a target. Hmmm. Druid?

Anyway, here's a smattering of info on him- clearly I can't give it all away. How will he know what I plan on taking out then? Not sure it matters since his agent corps is now basically nonexistent.

                           There is a Sacred Order city located in area IN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area HH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area IK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area JH of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order town located in area KO of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area GL of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area IP of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area KI of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MK of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area MN of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PJ of Amberland.
                           There is a Sacred Order village located in area PL of Amberland.

4SA     16    10   YU   Warlord Kevin Trueheart         Darian (Power-2)        
                                 Grand Marshal Yor               NA                      
                                 Marshal Kyr Shade               NA    

DR     Army Group    2SA          Marshal Krossis

         
         SA  King           Arthur Blackshield    
         SA  Duke           Ghost of Arthur
         SA  Fool           Charles Demar        
         SA  Baron          Gawain                
         SA Governor Francis
        SA  High Priestess Catherine  
         SA  High Priestess Agnes                
         SA  High Priestess Beatrice

SA-NO your mistaken, I only control 1 region, I controlled Torvalds only briefly for one moon after destroying the SO. I was attacked by the TY. Let's just say the NE has been friendlier and will be a better neighbor than you.
I would say that I'm no threat to the Lord of the Forest, but you are, and everyone knows this. Nice try, it seems you picked the wrong kingdom's to allign with. I farsee the DU, PI and LI being triumphant.
Rellgar the Great

(NO) How can I be a threat to the Druid when we have a game long NAP? Seems as if you are the one that is mistaken.

SA- I don't think so.
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NE > NO

I believe you asked for this game long nap with the Great Centaur, but were cunningly rebuffed. I know there are now 70 pages in this thread. But as a warring kingdom, I do pride myself on keeping up with who has naps with whom, and there length.
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