2nd Forum Only Diplomacy

[Acererak]

(DU)-NO The Lord of the Forest proposes the following:  4 villages outside the sands fly or will fly your banner.  3 of those shall fly skull and crossbones, I am happy to give the PI the coordinates if you prefer.  We will sign a game long NAP.  This prevents future conflicts and ensures any MDPs from causing us to come into conflict.  We will gift you 40k bushels during the summer to ensure the people of the sands will not starve.  With this you should be able to secure excellent relations with our friends the Pirates.  It makes me feel you were not able to take advantage of a new player.

This agreement ensures neither of us gains an advantage.  

(DU)-RA we would be happy to assist you with your food needs. Let the Lord of the Forest know your wishes for peace and we believe we can come to an accord.

Atuan- Lowly Centaurian Scribe

(DU)-NO The Lord of the Forest proposes the following:  4 villages outside the sands fly or will fly your banner.  3 of those shall fly skull and crossbones, I am happy to give the PI the coordinates if you prefer.  We will sign a game long NAP.  This prevents future conflicts and ensures any MDPs from causing us to come into conflict.  We will gift you 40k bushels during the summer to ensure the people of the sands will not starve.  With this you should be able to secure excellent relations with our friends the Pirates.  It makes me feel you were not able to take advantage of a new player.

This agreement ensures neither of us gains an advantage.  

(DU)-RA we would be happy to assist you with your food needs. Let the Lord of the Forest know your wishes for peace and we believe we can come to an accord.

Atuan- Lowly Centaurian Scribe

(NO) I want to be reasonable, so I would agree to giving 2 to the Pirates. That leaves me +1 instead of status quo. I'm not interested in a game long NAP because as we both know that ties our hands from intervening shall either one of us be on the path to victory. How about 2 to the Pirates, 20K food in the summer and a NAP until turn 20? Seems fair enough no?

(DU) - NO The Lord of the Forest can agree to all but the length of the NAP.  This must be turn 40 as we don't wish to give up the current advantage only to have you invade later.

(DU) - NO The Lord of the Forest can agree to all but the length of the NAP.  This must be turn 40 as we don't wish to give up the current advantage only to have you invade later.

(NO) I'm open to it as long as you agree our NAP is null and void if you attack the DE or WA. However, I would not intervene on behalf of them if they attack you. Fair enough?

(DU)-NO. So I can be attacked by your allies but I cannot attack them?   That's not exactly fair.  But The Lord of the Forest understands wanting to defend ones allies.  We can accept most of the terms but you are only allowed out of the NAP if we coordinate with another kingdom against the DE or WA.  Should however we attack in a 1v1 it seems they should be able to defend themselves.

Atuan- Lowly Centaurian Scribe

(DU)-NO. So I can be attacked by your allies but I cannot attack them?   That's not exactly fair.  But The Lord of the Forest understands wanting to defend ones allies.  We can accept most of the terms but you are only allowed out of the NAP if we coordinate with another kingdom against the DE or WA.  Should however we attack in a 1v1 it seems they should be able to defend themselves.

Atuan- Lowly Centaurian Scribe

(NO) Agreed. We have an NAP.

You are correct we start on page 33 finish on 34.  The Lord of the Forest is sad for the mistake he made in responding regarding the page numbers.

You are correct, we appologize. It was more deception from the NO that caused us to be mistaken. 

Rellgar

(NO) Pray tell, how did my "deception" cause you to misunderstand my agreement with the DU 1month/35 pages ago in the forum?

[Acererak]

(NO)

NO-PI: Question regarding credits, may these be used to cause general mischief against the SA? As I'm sure you've gathered: he has decided to attack me and is apparently expecting his allies to join in. That is as yet undetermined if they will, I like to think they have more honor. 4-1 against me (including my current war with the NE which I have taken on solely without aid from anyone), isn't something I would expect to reflect well on them.

Regardless, would love some payback for the long time you have held the two villages I bequeathed you. As you see, the group at DR is a potential target among many others.

[Rogal]

(PI) The SA is not a target, but his allies never offered up anything so there game.

[Acererak]

(PI) The SA is not a target, but his allies never offered up anything so there game.

(NO) Thanks Rogal. Appreciate that. No requests yet as they have not joined in but eill make a request next turn if necessary.

[unclemike]

(DU) - LI The Lord of the Forest is curious if we formed an alliance?

LI - DU
We could. Always look forward to working with those that never had a chance too yet. I'm about finished with the WA and will move into 3 but I could stop in 6 if you need help with the DE. Let me know. As mentioned earlier, already wiped out a DE group and some wizards so DE should be weakened somewhat.

[Atuan]

(DU) - LI The Lord of the Forest is curious if we formed an alliance?

LI - DU
We could. Always look forward to working with those that never had a chance too yet. I'm about finished with the WA and will move into 3 but I could stop in 6 if you need help with the DE. Let me know. As mentioned earlier, already wiped out a DE group and some wizards so DE should be weakened somewhat.

(DU) - LI The Lord of the Forest sees no reason for you to stop by the Steppes. We cannot imagine the forked tongued devil surviving after this moon, at least in a meaningful fashion. Sadly your agent might be cleansed with what seems to be the rest of his court. That and what looks to be the remainder of his wizards. Unless you have seen his 2nd or 4th roaming around.

Atuan - Middling Centaurian Scribe

[Wookie Panz]

(PI) The SA is not a target, but his allies never offered up anything so there game.

(NO) Thanks Rogal. Appreciate that. No requests yet as they have not joined in but eill make a request next turn if necessary.

(RA) Rogal, obviously I'm a bit late to the party but would you still entertain an offer from me?  I would only ask that you leave me alone.  I could offer a village and an item location if you deem that appropriate?  I commend you on your play of a dispersed position.   You have made the PI postions quite interesting.

Wookie - the not yet great and mighty

[Acererak]

(PI) The SA is not a target, but his allies never offered up anything so there game.

(NO) Thanks Rogal. Appreciate that. No requests yet as they have not joined in but eill make a request next turn if necessary.

(RA) Rogal, obviously I'm a bit late to the party but would you still entertain an offer from me?  I would only ask that you leave me alone.  I could offer a village and an item location if you deem that appropriate?  I commend you on your play of a dispersed position.   You have made the PI postions quite interesting.

Wookie - the not yet great and mighty

(NO) I won't ask if you don't join in against me. Does Rellgar the Mighty really need your your help? Or the Gnome's? I've honored all of my pacts including ours and never done a thing to you or the Gnome. If you join and make it 3-1 against me you would deserve some retribution. 

I haven't done the math but the two villages I gave Rogal freely many turns ago have generated probably close to 100k gold including food traded for it by now. So now you're interested? Pretty much the definition of "late to the party".

[Acererak]

(PI) The SA is not a target, but his allies never offered up anything so there game.

(NO) BTW- I still have a palantir location in 2- if you like and are free to grab it I am happy to hand over the coordinates.

[Rogal]

(PI) RA I could look at your offer, but your offer is late, so items could be looked at as more favorable then villages at this point, but I am up to any offers until turn 39. 

NO - Is the location AP? if it is not then yes I would like the information.