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**Hawk_** · 03-24-2014, 01:01 PM

(03-24-2014, 12:49 PM)VballMichael Wrote: So, if all are natural enemies, do influence changes affect everyone? also, are dwarf and gnome unhitched, so they are not the only ones who get affected by the other raising influence? I just noticed they are the only actual natural enemies in the scenario.
Also, this feels like there will still be lots of diplomacy, just no trading. after all, there are 5 free regions to fight over....
This should be fun. Let's get a fifth for the Dwarf.

This looks cool. I predict it will be a very popular variant choice.

**Jumpingfist** · 03-24-2014, 01:32 PM

Should we agree in the spirit of no formal alliances we have no NAP/turned based diplomacy. Not saying we can not agree to attack same person, even a "You leave me a lone I will leave you alone" would be fine since it still leave things open really.

Is there no Dwarf lovers out there. Friendly with tolerant next door, 20% bonus vs giants great defensive towns.

**kevindusi** · 03-24-2014, 02:01 PM

If someone prefers to play EL, I will switch to DW since I was on the fence originally anyways.

**Lord Thanatos** · 03-24-2014, 02:25 PM

(03-24-2014, 02:01 PM)kevindusi Wrote: If someone prefers to play EL, I will switch to DW since I was on the fence originally anyways.

I will be the fifth.

I prefer DW, if that is okay Kevin.

**VballMichael** · 03-24-2014, 02:39 PM

Awesome. Five on board. Just need clarity from Rick on whether DW and GN affect each other with influence raises. Hoping that is a quick fix so those two are not disadvantaged on that point.

**kevindusi** · 03-24-2014, 03:03 PM

(03-24-2014, 02:25 PM)Lord Thanatos Wrote: I will be the fifth.

I prefer DW, if that is okay Kevin.

You got it, LT. Elves for me!

**Brogan** · 03-24-2014, 03:11 PM

You lucky dogs! Curse you for reading the forums. Wink

**DuPont** · 03-24-2014, 03:37 PM

(03-24-2014, 03:03 PM)kevindusi Wrote:
(03-24-2014, 02:25 PM)Lord Thanatos Wrote: I will be the fifth.
I prefer DW, if that is okay Kevin.
You got it, LT. Elves for me!

Even though you are as far away from me as one can get on the map, my dragon nose can still smell your awful stench. Hopefully, you'll smell better when cooked crispy.

**kevindusi** · 03-24-2014, 03:42 PM

(03-24-2014, 03:37 PM)DuPont Wrote:
(03-24-2014, 03:03 PM)kevindusi Wrote:
(03-24-2014, 02:25 PM)Lord Thanatos Wrote: I will be the fifth.
I prefer DW, if that is okay Kevin.
You got it, LT. Elves for me!
Even though you are as far away from me as one can get on the map, my dragon nose can still smell your awful stench. Hopefully, you'll smell better when cooked crispy.

"Scoreboard."

**Ry Vor** · 03-24-2014, 06:24 PM

Very good.

Good point on the natural enemies having maybe too much impact on influence losses.

So this will have the GN and DW remain in their eternal natural enemy status. And now the BL and EL are natural enemies. The Giant is free of a natural enemy. Everyone else is just neutral then and no allies can be declared, but enemies can be declared. This is again for player enforcement, a "mistake" of declaring an ally will be a -2 to influence. No trading except in the open market, at all - same penalty.

I would appreciate it if the players would email me on their feedback on this game at my personal email or @support as I am quite interested in how this more open game plays.

If the players all like, I will attempt to get Grasshopper to run this game x3 a week - M, W, F.

I'm looking forward to following this one.